DeepSeek Deep Dive + Hands-On With Operator + Hot Mess Express!

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This week we go even deeper on DeepSeek. ChinaTalks’ Jordan Schneider joins us to explain the Chinese A.I. industry and to break down the reaction inside of China to DeepSeek’s sudden success. Then … hello, Operator! We put OpenAI’s new agent software to the test. And finally, all aboard for another ride on the Hot Mess Express!

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“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones. This episode was edited by Rachel Dry and fact-checked by Ena Alvarado. Our executive producer is Jen Poyant. Engineering by Daniel Powell, with original music by Dan Powell and Diane Wong.